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New information related to the Phoenix pay system damages agreement, specifically the process by which former employees can request a payment for general compensation.

Here are the links:

New claims process:

We’ve updated the page about compensation for damages:

You may also find this final link useful: it contains a description of, and links to, all available claims processes:

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15 May 2018

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12 April 2018

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15 March 2018.


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FMF CB was represented by Carmen Collins (Shop 114) and Heather Lichtensteiger (Shop 144)

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Elections 2018

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28 February 2018

Council Executive along with members at Phoenix rally downtown

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27 February 2018

Elections for the Council Executive positions were held on 26 February. These are the results:

President – Des Rogers (Shipwrights Local # 9)

1st Vice President – Kevin Walsh (Sheetmetal Local # 276)

2nd Vice President – Dwayne Boyd (IAM Local # 456)

Treasurer – Keith Campbell (Painters Local # 138)

Recording Secretary – Craig Smith (Machinists Local # 3)

9 January 2018

Please check out the Council Bulletins page for the first bulletin of 2018.

11 October 2017

Ever since the Phoenix pay system came on line, all government employees have been forced to be their own compensation advisers. Below is a handy link that provides useful information on how to do this:

16 September 2017

The following comments were posted on the Phoenix “Pay” System Facebook group page and because this is a good explanation of why this payroll system is not working well, they are being shared here:

Phoenix is a name that somebody decided to use for our customized version of PeopleSoft, and PeopleSoft runs over top of the Oracle database repository (the engine under the hood). Every single installation of PeopleSoft is customized for the client organization to specifically reflect the business rules of that organization.

In my decades of working with Oracle products I have never seen an application with as many business rules to be programmed as our Canadian government Phoenix application (over 80,000 rules to build in), although I have worked on projects with much bigger budgets. From the get-go, this was an extremely complex undertaking. Many of these business rules were not (and could not be) automated in the older RPS system.

Furthermore, support of the old system and mainframe was an inevitable problem. Pay transformation was to bring us into current day technology and automate many activities. These automations remain highly dependent on accurate information being put into the system correctly and promptly by departments – as much as that can happen it reduces delays and errors – we employees and the CAs are dependent on that, amongst other things to ensure we do all we can to make things work.

However, the bigger picture of the Phoenix project is that it was stripped down too far to fit into the Harper governments ideal budgets, leaving us with inadequate resources for the various project phases, a buggy system, and a woeful lack of proper training. This system COULD HAVE WORKED and been a great improvement overall.

Until we look at this project with fresh eyes, reallocation of some resources and effort, and proper costing and risk mitigation, any attempts to fix it will be piecemeal and be likely to fail. “Phoenix Fix” needs to be treated as a full project in its own right at this point.

6 September 2017

The new SRW Collective Agreement was just posted on the Treasury Board website and can be accessed through a link on this website on the SRW Collective Agreement page.

24 August 2017

Union members employed at DND protest the recent $5.2 Billion contract awarded to Thales to repair and maintain Arctic Offshore Patrol Ships and the Joint Support Ships, and also the lack of progress in fixing the Phoenix payroll system.

21 July 2017

The Phoenix payroll system continues to have problems:

13 July 2017

Click on the link below for answers to frequently asked questions about collective agreement implementation:

30 June 2017

The SRW Collective Agreement has been signed. Please see the latest bulletin for details.

15 June 2017

Repeal of recently passed anti-Union legislation –  Bills C-377 and C-525.

14 June 2017

Rick Mercer imagines a time when the Phoenix pay system gets fixed:

5 June 2017

The tentative agreement has been ratified.  Please see the latest bulletin for details.

1 June 2017

All of the Unions representing personnel working for DND are strongly against the use of contractors to perform the work normally done by DND employees. The article found at the link below elaborates on the reasons for this:

24 May 2017

Two important bulletins today: Treasury Board has just provided us with a new and final Appendix A, with corrections to the apprentice rates of pay. Please go to the Council Bulletins webpage and click on the “May 24, 2017 – Final Rates of Pay from Employer” bulletin. Also, details on the ratification vote are in the “May 24, 2017 – Ratification Vote Date and Location” bulletin.

23 May 2017

Help for Phoenix related issues can be found by clicking the link below:

17 May 2017

Back by popular demand, the original proposal package that Council presented to Treasury Board in 2015 – at the start of the latest negotiations:

2015 – FGDTLC (W) Contract Proposals Final

2 May 2017

Council Delegates and Affiliate Union Business Representatives met in the Boilermaker’s Hall for a special meeting to discuss the tentative contract proposals. After a thorough review, the tentative proposals were accepted unanimously and will be disseminated to all personnel currently working under the SR(W) collective agreement for review prior to ratification. The plan is for a ratification vote to be held before the end of the month.  The tentative proposals can be viewed at the link below:

SRW Tentative Agreement Package 17.04.27

1 May 2017

Last week, the Council Negotiating Committee returned to the bargaining table to meet with Treasury Board for the first time in a year.  It was a very intense week, with sessions of over 12 hours per day. The Council Negotiating Committee is led by President Des Rogers and is comprised of the Council Executive and the Liaison Committee, which are the National and International Union representatives appointed to assist with bargaining.



The week ended with a tentative agreement that was signed by Council President Des Rogers and Ted Leindecker, the Treasury Board negotiator. The tentative agreement will be presented to the Council Delegates and affiliate Unions for approval at a special meeting on Tuesday, May 2nd.  If it is approved, the tentative agreement will be disseminated to all personnel working under the SR(W) collective agreement for review, and a ratification vote will be held in the near future.


10 April 2017

Dockyard Council Delegates and Shop Stewards met for training on April 10th, 2017. The instructor was Richard MacIntosh, International Representative for the Boilermakers Union. Topics included a history of the Council, familiarization with the collective agreement and how to investigate grievances. Nora Johnson, Manager of the Employee Assistance Program (EAP) at CFB Esquimalt spoke about how EAP is there to help guide employees to a variety of resources if they are having personal problems. Everyone attending increased their knowledge on how to better represent their Brothers and Sisters in the Dockyard.


27 February 2017

Bob Lacquement receives a plaque from Council President Des Rogers for recognition of his work on the Council Executive as Recording Secretary. Brother Bob stepped down from this position on February 27th,  2017  and will be retiring in May with over 43 years combined Navy and Dockyard service.

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